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I recently bought these to upgrade the tuning machines on my Harley Benton SC450 LD guitar. The stock ones were ok but felt a bit loose and didn't hold tune as well as I'd like. The Grover ones are in a different league. They look exactly like the HB ones but the feel of them is totally different - they are so much more smooth and solid. Once I removed the original ones I was amazed how wobbly and loose they felt compared to the Grover ones. Thomann recommended the size I needed for the HB and they fitted perfectly - it's worth emailing them before you buy in error (like I was just about to do...!). The HB now has good tuners and a Tusq nut and feels and sounds like a quality guitar.
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Perfect fit to my HB SC-450Plus
LoveGuitars 27.02.2023
I asked Thomann for recommended part to upgrade my SC-450Plus and they suggested this these tuners. Perfect fit and very simple and easy way to replace the old one with this one.
I changed the nut as well and I have completely different guitar.
Very happy!