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I am a tama aficionado and use mostely tama gear I just love them so it bothers me to say this but!….. the felt pads on these disintegrated in no time and I have like ……5 or six Iron Cobra juniors (same beaters or look same as these) and they didn’t perish this fast they took years and years but yeah these took a few months and down to the plastic ….not gonna bother buying these grey ones again feel like I’ll try find some black ones els where from now on 😞