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Bought these for a HBenton jazz bass. Original HB tuners hardware toal 364g. These upgrades that boast 50% lighter were 288g. Weight saving of less than 21%. A far cry from 50% claim. Somewhat false advertising if you consider a HB stock bass tuning machine as "standard". Not worth the upgrade if you already have the stock HB tuners which appear standard chrome. Not installed yet but the quality looks good. Shame about the weight claim. Disappointed for the money I paid really as the weight loss was key.